Sorry, but I haven’t got time for a proper blog today (though I have an article brewing) owing to the fact that I’m preparing for my trip to London on Thursday and have to tie up loose ends at work and home before I get on the plane.
This brief bit is in direct response to the pundits who have jumped to the defense of this indefensible person, in all likelihood because he is now an English international. Gunnerblog found articles by Stan Collymore, Paul Parker, and Lou Macari which are three of the worst examples of human beings, much less writers, that I have ever had the displeasure to read. Not to let the cat out of the bag but in each they either blame Arsene Wenger, ask Wenger to apologize, or actually blame RAMSEY for fucking up Shawcross’ England debut. Of course, the Lou Macari article is in the same paper where some utter, utter cunt claims that the Arsenal players, especially Cesc, were more interested in getting Shawcross sent off than helping Ramsey.
There are plenty of others out there to look at. Wayne Rooney, serial cheater, known liar, and all around dirty player has jumped to Shawcross’ defense. Alex Ferguson evidently called Shawcross on the phone to lend his support. Do you think the conversation went like this: “That’s a good lad, next time take out more of them so United can win the title?”
But it’s U21 Nationalism coach Stuart Psycho Pearce who really sums up the myopic disconnect between reality and English football with this quote:
If you look on the back catalogue of any player – and I am talking about any player – you can find instances of poor tackles. What we don’t like to see is players coming out of tackles with the ferocity of injury that Aaron has had. But I have seen worse challenges than that this season that thankfully (emphasis added, ed.) have got away with not even a booking.
One that springs to mind is Kevin Nolan who made a challenge on an Everton player (Victor Anichebe) which wasn’t the best. It looked far worse probably than that challenge. You are in the lap of the gods on a football pitch that hopefully on occasions you don’t come away with the sight that we saw with Aaron Ramsey.
Thankfully? Are you kidding me? For this?
I’m at a loss to explain why he is thankful that Kevin Nolan’s two footed lunge which saw Anichebe out for a year was not even a yellow card. As far as I’m concerned, Kevin Nolan intended to break Victor Anichebe’s leg and deserved far more than just a yellow card. But see, Stuart Pearce, is part of the problem. He’s the England U21 coach. He is one of the people who taught Ryan Shawcross right and wrong, and he thinks that Kevin Nolan’s attempt to end Anichebe’s career doesn’t even warrant a yellow card.
Amazing.
Pearce also mentions how if you look into anyone’s back catalog you’ll find skeletons in their closet. Well, here’s Shawcross’ back catalog:
Brutal tackle from behind when he was just a lad at Royal Antwerp, 2007
Here he is laughing at breaking Francis Jeffers’ ankle, 2008
Here he is tackling Adebayor off the pitch and injuring him for 3 weeks, 2009
And finally, the tackle on Aaron Ramsey, 2010
Some might say that 4 injuries in 4 years by the same player is not coincidence. That maybe he has a problem? Stuart Pearce wouldn’t but there’s a reason why he’s called Psycho.
Clearly from all that evidence he is not a malicious player, but simply, totally and utterly inept.
If I was that bad at my job, they would fire me on the spot.
I have to say I think Shawcross is making too many headlines.
I think the issue is larger than him, and that concentrating on his ineptitude serves to vilify him, when the larger issue is players LIKE him, rather than the individual.
Don’t get me wrong I cringe a little when I read someone say “he isn’t that kind of player”, especially knowing what he did to Ade and Jeffers, but I think that in the interest of actually doing something about these sorts of players, criticism needs to be leveled at their style of play and its consequences, rather than the individual.
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:38 am
@Shobo, Actually, Shobo, I agree with you. Liam Ridgewell is a dirty little fucker who got away with an abomination of a tackle this weekend only to have the FA refuse to examine it because “the ref had a look.”
The whole system is corrupt, as I wrote the day Ramsey was scythed down. I just wanted to make sure we had a look at some of the main reasons why the system is corrupt.
When you have the coach of the England U21s saying that Nolan’s tackle isn’t even a yellow card, there’s a serious problem in the English FA.
Oh! And have a great trip, Tim. Take lots of pictures so those of us who can’t make it to Ashburton Grove can live through you vicariously!
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 am
@Shobo, I bought a Canon G10 in the Summer just for this trip.
I will be taking loads of pictures.
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:42 am
@Tim, Though I may need to be careful because of section 44.
Though, if a cop asks me to give them id I will do it gladly and just make it clear that I am an American tourist, I write a blog (I have cards now) and that I love England and respect the Queen and the laws of her Majesty and on and on.
I don’t want to cause any trouble, just want to take photos for the folks who can’t get over there.
Simply put Shawcross is a C**T wit a violent track record and makes me ashamed to be English. In fact this whole ‘don’t like it up ‘em’ bollocks makes me ashamed… What you guys don’t get if you’ve not lived in England is how much sway the media has on public opinion over there… The media dictates what people THINK…if it’s not in the back pages of the Sun, it didn’t happen…I personally hope (and it sickens me to say this) that some other talentless C**T does Terry, Rooney or Gerrard…in the same mould of Eduardo/Ramsey/Diaby it’s the only way it’ll ever get stamped out of the game (excuse the pun).
I am SEETHING over this, I’ve tried to write something about it a couple of times but frankly I just want to get on a plane, fly home and pay a visit to the English media and run over all the fuckers with a very large vehicle while screaming “I don’t have a bad bone in MY body either”…
It’s outrageous that the Cesc ‘spitting’ indecent get’s 57 acres of coverage and everyone’s disgusted, while a physical injury that could end someone’s career and livelihood get’s a shrugged shoulder and a ‘it’s part of the game’ attitude.
I never saw how xenophobic a society I lived in until I was removed from it. Fucking small minded cuntbuckets.
Mitch Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:34 am
@Grimbo, I had to look again to see if I had wrote on this page already as those are my exact thoughts. However, I realised how xenophobic the UK is whilst still living there and even more so now I am abroad.
Stuart Pearce is a complete and total c*nt along with many, many others who have supported Shawcross and vilified Arsenal and everyone connected with it. What a bunch of completely dispicable sh*theads they really are.
As long as the FA is full of the current mugs that are in there now, I dont see any hope this attitude improving. I really hope this incident motivates some reasonable person to play an active part in the FA in changing their policies. What we need is to have more folks who understand the dangers and the ridiculousness of their current stance, becoming more involved in football politics. English football will never change unless there is a focus to shift the style of football so that England is at par with their technically superior European counterparts. There are just simply too many morons out there right now with a voice. The only way to shut them down is to clamp down from the top. So please – if you are somebody/ know somebody who has a chance to participate in football politics, dont be afraid to do so. Football needs people like you. Arsene is but one man, he can’t do it all by himself. For now, our best response will be winning the league and dedicating the trophy to Ramsey.
DF Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:30 pm
Don’t indulge in impossible dreams! The English wont change this attitude. It goes back a long way–in 1966, when the English won the World Cup, Pele was kicked out of the game but the media did not rage; henceforth, they maintained the same attitude towards such dirty tackles. How can you expect a ‘tradition’ of 44 years to change?
I think it arises out of their inferiority complex. The English will never be able to play beautiful and graceful football like the continentals or the South Americans. So they have to stop those players playing, in order to win against them. Hence aggression and career ending tackles.
What people don’t realize is that to the English, football is not a game, not a sport, it is war and battle, and teams are justified to win by all means–taking out the most influential player of the opposite team while sacrificing one of your own is acceptable(albeit subconsciously). The teams they wont dare to play rough are those which insists on ‘an eye for an eye’; that is why ManUnited with Keane is protected; because they know Keane will break anyone’s legs if one of his team-mates is taken out like Eduardo or Ramsey. The Arsenal with Viera, Keown…etc are safe, because they know Viera will never tolerate something like that. Now Wenger’s boys have no Dirty Harry among them–so it is safe to play rough against them. If we have a Andoni Goikoetxea, also known as the Butcher of Bilbao, in our team, we dont have to worry…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpcBkpOf4z8
nycgunner Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:40 pm
I know it sounds like an impossible dream but there’s gotta be some action from somewhere to change things. Otherwise all these protests from all us fans become nothing but noise.
Oh and have great trip Tim. The atmosphere at the Emirates will be electric in light of what happened over the w/e. I am sure the crowd will come out in full support of the team. Hope you get a chance to take some good pics for your readers who can’t make it out there
So, any chance that Arsenal can actually DO something other than just AW’s pressers? You know, anything! Im still so sad for Rambo. I really hope we can sweep the games ahead and those above us drop unexpected points. This Arsenal team deserves to win the EPL so badly after coping with so many injuries.
A truly disturbing fact. A google search for “feel sorry for ryan shawcross” yields 573 results. A google search for “feel sorry for aaron ramsey” > 7 results.
573 to fukin 7
Patrick Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:38 am
Uhm, Ramsey wins 424 to 5 if you do ‘feel for aaron ramsey’ versus ‘feel for ryan shawcross’
What else can I add? The whole of England just want to paint Arsenal and Arsene wrong and see us as the ENEMY. Sorry for Aaron, his gradually shining career was begnning to gather momentum both for club and country…now he has to wait.No problem , he’ll come thru it eventually.
But a word of warning for all the xenophobic media, clubs, players and media:WHAT GOES ROUND COMES ROUND.You have supported the development of technically stunted players who apply rugby tactics in football, backed by psycho managers who use this tactics as there ‘winning formular’ especally against the ‘enemy’ Arsenal and Arsene. Soon and very soon, one of your ‘very talented’ and upcoming ‘stars’ are going to do one of your stars(how I hope its Rooney, Gerard, Lampard, Rio or Terry) and put them out of the game for a very long time or end their careers. I want it to be English versus English so I will enjoy the soap very well.
Then and only then will you realise that for very long, you sowed the wind and the whirlwind will be your harvest!
As AW said, Arsenal will not play the ‘typical English’game that supports ‘strong tackles’ of bone-breaking propotions;no we wont. Barcelona won six titles in one year and didnt play that way;we believe we can do same and WE WILL! If it means waiting for so long to win one trophy the right way, then we’ll do it!I was one of those who wanted a Essien type player but I rescind that;no way are we bringing in such ‘career-killers’ into the glorious Arsenal. Second, we will continue to grow as a team and we’ll really get used to the soo called ‘agricultural tackles’(no further injuries of course) and we will RULE EPL again, OUR OWN WAY!
Everyday now, I wait to see your own go in for the tackle and end a season or a career. I want to see then if SAF will be so eager to phone and offer his condolences…I hope all the media, pundits and managers will be there to back the injured stars!
DF Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:37 pm
SAF is a cunning old man. By phoning Shawcross, he is making sure Shawcross wont tackle Rooney like he tackled Ramsey. You must remember Shawcross comes from ManU playing in U17 onwards. He played a few games for United too…
Not much to add here. It has been very well said. Unfortunately, it is a poor social statement for England which always prided itself on “fair play”.
It’s this “turn a blind eye” because they are British syndrome, which leads to people like Rooney, Keane, Terry, Cole, Barton, Shawcross, Taylor being allowed to become assassins on and off the pitch without punishment. It’s the same culture which cultivates the youth to worship these physically and morally bankrupt assholes.
Am I crazy to see Shawcross got called up? What? I agree with the “he’s not malicious” crowd… but he is reckless and has no skill. He is dangerous, the way it’d be dangerous to give a loaded gun to a monkey, not really the monkey’s fault, but a danger nonetheless.
He’s an untalented player who’s gotten to where he is with hard work and playing on the edge. And that warrants a call-up to the national team? How shallow is the barrel that Capello has to scrape bottom already?
When you live on the edge once in a while you will step over. When players like Shawcross cross the line they need to be punished, 10-15 match bans. They aren’t bad guys necessarily, but if that’s how you need to ply your trade then you shouldn’t be allowed to ply it as often, or in this league for that matter.
What awful reporting: : “Here is Shawcross laughing …”
Was that photo taking after a question on the tackle/injury? Or was that just any photo paper used? To suggest he is laughing cause of that photo is such bad reporting, or flat out slander – one or the other.
No mention of Adebnayor’s cheap shot on Shawcross before that? I love how Veierra kicks a guy in the nuts (on purpose) but no comments from Arsenal fans about their ex-star. But an accidental 50/50 challenge has them riled up. One word = pussies
Fabergas tackled guys like Pugh from behind when there was 30 seconds left. Not a peep about that. Anyone with a brain that I have showed the Ramsey you tube video footage of (including Arsenal fans) says this was a fluke accident. No way the league even adds any pusnishment to this cause it is an obvious unfortunate accident, that everyone sees but stupid Gunner fans
But Arsenal just keep up with their stereotype of being pussy, wimpy, femine crybabies. I can see why their fans cheer for a team that dances naked together.
Big kudos to Fergie who called Shawcross. Wenger will never have his class, let alone trophies.
As an Aemrican I am embrassed by this reporter, who clearly does not like American sports or he would he would understand in football and hockey tough play is celebrated. I can see why no one likes soccer here with this girly attidtud. This was a tough play, not a dirty play
I wish this writer lived in NY so I could kick his ass
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:56 am
@Alex,
As a fellow Aemrican I’m embarassed by this commenter, who clearly does not like the English language or he would understand that proper spelling and sentence construction is celebrated. I can see why no one like us Aemricans with this caveman attitude. This was a stupid comment, not an intelligent one.
I wish this commenter wasn’t a 14 year old child so I could kick his ass.
Patrick Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:46 am
Tim, don’t feed the trolls
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:55 am
@Patrick, I can’t even poke fun at them?
PLEASE???
Patrick Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Are you kidding? Mockery’s a troll’s favorite food. They eat that shit up and then play the victim.
rizal Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm
@Alex, Alex Alex you are a kid, you can tackle anyone for anywhere either it is for front or behind, but without excessive FORCE no one will get INJURED, and you still can manage to bring him down. Remember NO FORCE = LESS risk to injury.
and for Fabregas tackle there is no force in it, even though he is at fault.
Have you seen how Showcross coordinate his body structure when he is about to go into Ramsey ? It is equivalent to those who want to make a shoot a full throttle “freekick” but this time what is infront of him is not just a ball but also a human being.
Showcross is GUILTY end of story, no need to hide and reside to your ego, just be a man and accept it thats all.
nycgunner Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 7:43 am
I live in NY. Feel free to drop by anytime. In the meantime, here is video to chew on you moron:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67ftN-B6r8
Yeah, i must say i don’t quite understand all this outrage over Wenger’s comments. From the reaction you’d think he called Shawcross a baby-eating Nazi whose father smelled of elderberries, but he didn’t even mention him by name. Only calling the tackle “unacceptable” and “horrendous” shows some pretty damn good self-control if you ask me. He went overboard with his initial reaction about Taylor’s tackle and recognized that, but here he has nothing to answer for.
One thing i must agree with the assholes about though, is being disappointed with the reaction of Sol and Cesc. I can understand them being too shocked to want to look at Ramsey, and i’m all for going after Shawcross and telling him what an utter incompetent, reckless twat he is, but bitching at the ref or the linesman is kind of silly. Let’s leave that shit to Terry. That said, i’m kind of amused at the Stoke-fan line (which i’ve seen in more places) that Whelan “and other Stoke players” helped out, when it was Whelan and Bendy who stayed with Ramsey they whole time.
Firstly i’ve been a gooner since i was a wee lad and at the moment we play the type of football others dream of. The refs just need to apply the letter of the law to the bullies that think they can rough up our team.
Secondly, i heard the Stuart Pearce interview on talk sport and he just made a balls up of it, what he was trying to say was there have been far worse tackles than that but thankfully “no one was seriously injured and” they have got away without a booking. So no need to slaughter him, it just came out wrong.
Showcross is a good guy, because he cry when he broke someone foot. Pity him for having 3 match ban and for the possibility of others blame him for being a dirty player and risking his England spot.
This show the true colour of what kind of pathetic mentality majority of people in this country. Sick
TxGun Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:50 am
@rizal, He was crying not for what he did, he was crying because he got sent off. That asshole
I am really starting to hate English Football, besides Arsenal, and the English media as a whole. I wonder if he did it to Rooney, what everyone would say. All fucking assholes. Seriously.
hey Tim – wanna post w-2′s? I will bet $20,000 I make close to double to triple what you make ayear. 14 year old – hahah. Looking at that lame picture in your ski hat, I am guessing you probably fill my gas when it is cold out.
There was nothing wrong with this tackle. You guys must think black helicopters folow you too.
Again, your a pussy if you think this tackle was horrific. Also again, when you cheer for a team that dances naked together, it really says it all
Alex Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:25 pm
@Alex, let’s get you on a field so I can give you one of those and see how you feel about it. Who cares how much money you make? That income is your primary measure of a person’s value show exactly how much of a douche you really are. Go back to masturbating with your ManU jersey and leave us alone.
joseph Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
Alex the way you writing and its content you must be 14 the next thing you’ll be saying is that your prick is bigger than Tim’s.
Who gives a F*ck what you earn by the way what would manu cunt know about Arsenal football club id get your begging bowl out your team are going to need it.
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:08 pm
@Alex, you make $450,000 a year and yet can’t spell.
Only in Aemrica.
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:11 pm
@Alex,
I HAS A HUGE W-2!
XTG Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:10 am
@Alex, Lol, what an insecure fool. He has to big himself up on the internet. Hilarious. Please post more often, you are comedy gold. Also, please don’t learn to spell it, without the rubbish grammar and spelling your posts would just display platitudinousness.
tim where are you going for a drink before the game on saturday?
Tim Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:10 pm
@richiegooner, the Arsenal tavern maybe Richie Rich Alex can fly over, first class, and kick my ass real good. Now that he knows where I’ll be.
Thanks – keep pumping my gas. And I said paper, not plastic
If UK football fans have some sense of justice, BOO and HUMILIATE Shawcross whenever you see him play on the field, irregardless of what team he plays for. This is FAN POWER. Only when fans can unite to do this, such tackles will never disappear, and the cunts wont stop uttering stupidities.
Tim hope enjoy the match this weekend I will leaving Ireland on sat morning to attend the match as well lets hope my record of never seeing Arsenal lose when i’ve seen them live holds up.
Win by 4 goals we go back to the top of the table at least till those manu cunts play later on that evening.
Will everyone please leave off Alex? I’m enjoying his prose writing skills and literary genius immensely.
You know what they say about most homophobic’s don’t you? Can you spell ‘in the closet’ Alex? Boasting about your “bank account” in response to calls you’re underage? Are you trying to convince us, or yourself of your manhood?
Sir I say to you, the biggest test of whether you are a man or a boy is your intellect: ‘ Adebnayor’s’, ‘ Veierra’, ‘folow’, ‘pusnishment’, ‘Aemrican’, ‘attidtud’. Does your computer not underline poor spelling as everyone else’s does? Hardly rocket science, no? Or can you not look up on Google the correct spelling of those named players? Even with your inept spelling you’re bound to get a few hits.
Might I suggest that you have an IQ that’s so low it cannot be tested by any normal means, Instead it must be sought by excavation into a pit of ManUre, which by happenstance is also the prime motivation for you being on an Arsenal site. You frequent websites that have nothing to do with your favoured team (the aforementioned ManUre, quite obviously) as your own supporters can’t stomach your weak, unsubstantiated arguments. I suppose you think that the Glazier’s are a global beacon of responsible club management also.
Your stunning lack of any knowledge was for me summed up with this statement: “Big kudos to Fergie who called Shawcross. Wenger will never have his class, let alone trophies.”
Sir Alex Ferguson is many things, class is not one of them. He screams like a child throwing a tantrum at his own players, kicks boots at one of his stars injuring him in the process (Beckham) and tells referee’s that they are unfit when the stats clearly show that the ref in question ran further then 70% of the players. A sound tactician; certainly, a great manager; undoubtedly, a keen player of mind games; yes.
It’s to this last point I would hazard a guess SAF did what he did – he’s looking over his shoulder at a team that’s fast catching up with a better run in that isn’t reliant on one overused player, and he’s trying to put the wind up us. Class he is not. Class is trying to change an ancient attitude to sustained mediocrity from within, all while suffering the indignation of the English gutter press. England suffers because of this refusal to modernise and it cannot continue to bask in the rays of 1966 as the game has moved on – and while this ‘don’t like it up ‘em’ stance continues, England will remain also-ran’s as they refuse to join the rest of the world in calling play such as this unacceptable.
So, please, please, please write back Alex, as I know your response will show you to be a sad lonely internet fanboy with no understanding of the beautiful game other then re-hashing what you read in the gutter press and calling it your own opinion. I won’t need to retort, as it’ll be plain for everyone to see you cannot string coherent thoughts together.
So in closing I would suggest that you sir, are a complete cuntbucket of the highest order and not worthy of further attention, I thank you for the amusement you have caused me and bid you good day…
Kindest regards
Grimbo
kevin Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 1:39 pm
@Grimbo, c***bucket….new favorite blog word!
XTG Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:15 am
@Grimbo, A+ comment.
I hope any nation would win the world cup except England, a place where fDootball is out-to-kick-you culture.
Alex Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 2:06 pm
@musher, I agree (actually like the Spaniards to win it). I would REALLY like to see the Americans kick the Brits off the pitch in June. I don’t expect too much out of them but to see them dump the Brits (2-0 plus a few dozen lumps) and escape the group stage would be great.
I’m going a little off topic here, but I thought FSC was going to carry the Burnley match on the 6th? It’s not on their schedule anymore. I know you’ll be in N5 on Sunday Tim, but do you know which channel the match will broadcast on here in the States?
kevin Reply:
March 2nd, 2010 at 6:43 pm
@Brice, I heard that it will be on Fox Soccer Plus, not confirmed yet though…
Brice Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:30 am
@kevin, Fuck, I don’t have FSC Plus yet…
Brice Reply:
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:36 am
@Brice, Side note, but if you have a yearly subscription to Setanta or Setanta-i, they will refund the remaining part of your contract. Considering the problems I’ve had with Setanta in the past, I thought I was just going to get screwed, but I actually did receive the funds in my bank account today
I know many football fans who look at the Shawcross tackle and truly believe that it was an unfortunate situation, and believe that either player had rights to the ball, and that it was merely good, hard play.
BULL SHIT, FUCKING BULL SHIT, and this is why…
Ramsey had Shawcross beaten by a few yards, at the least, and that is enough for a player like Shawcross (who is billing himself as a world class player) to know that he was not going to be first to that ball. If you know this, than you pull up, and you play defense. You don’t speed up and throw all your power into it. The rest of the world can gauge this, they can look at a situation like this and see that there was o way Shawcross was going to win that ball, so he needs to stay on his feet and play some defense, try to win the ball ina fair, competitive manner. English defenders, for decades, have known that they are slower and less agile, so they make up for it by throwing themselves into every tackle. They’ve got their sports mixed up. This isn’t rugby. It’s the mentality of English defenders, and it is regarded as a good, hard play. If you are looking at that tackle, and you believe it was fair play, than you see a different sport than the rest of the world. I’ve watched Sol jumping around screaming, and I feel what he is feeling, because he is English, and a defender, but he doesn’t play this way. He plays defense in a fair, competitive way. He doesn’t leave his feet if he’s not going to win the ball. He knows that his countrymen’s lack of precision defense has just cost his teammate’s season. It really looks like he has it all summed up right there in his head, like he really understands it. The other Europeans on the team also look disgusted, like, ‘fucking typical English defender, fucking careless!’
It’s the difference between someone who speeds up when they see a yellow and someone who slows down. If you can come to a complete stop once you see a yellow light, you should, but if you are already have way into the intersection then, what can you do, you can’t stop. Well, Shawcross is the kind of fellow that sees it is yellow from a block away and guns it, runs the red, ends up striking a car, and injures someone, and feels bad about it, but he doesn’t learn. He does it over and over and over… He’s not a bad person, he’s just fucking stupid.
Thank you Bobby, you are one of the very few football “pundits” I respect and this is why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o67ftN-B6r8