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Monday’s Fiver: the Stone Cold Truth about Angola, Arsene to Denilson “cheat?”, Man U Bonds, Setanta Update, and Fergie on Crapenburg

Stone Cold Truth

I was re-listening to last week’s It’s Up For Grabs Now Arsenal podcast and was surprised that one of the commentators used the words “War Torn Angola” to describe the ACN, and this was before the Togo bus was attacked. Unfortunately for many, that term is actually just the way that we see much of, if not all of Africa. Wenger has issued a stern admonition to the rest of the EPL not to use the Togo bus attack for selfish reasons and has ripped the nearly apoplectic reaction that folks like Martin Samuels and others at the Daily Fail have perpetrated in the name of news.

Behind things like that, is it a selfish motivation or is it a real issue over security? We, here, are not in the best position to judge the security of this competition. That’s why I don’t want to do it [recall my players]. If you organise the European Championships and you have an incident like that – it can happen, and has happened already – you do not want all your players suddenly to move home. International competition is international competition.

If the security within the country is well-organised [then that is what matters]. You hear many noises now that they [the Togo squad] were told not to travel by bus, I’ve heard, and to fly in. So I don’t know what happened there. And, as well, why no one from the official organisation was travelling with them. I don’t know.

It’s always like that, when you hear sometimes there’s unrest in the suburbs of London, you still live well in London. When I speak to my friends in France, they ask me: ‘Is a revolution happening in London?’ It’s the same in Paris, you know. You immediately think it’s a revolution everywhere. It’s not always the case.  You have to judge the place, whether the competition can go on or not, and I don’t know [the intricacies]. I don’t like this culture of fear, either. I hate that.

Meanwhile, Darius over at Stone Cold Arsenal has written the definitive article on the tragedy in Angola. He describes some of the failures that led up to the Togo National team bus attack. He informs us of the political climate in Angola. He also give a run down of the international forces at work, why Cabinda was chosen by Angola, and most importantly, he takes on the press corpse who seek to conflate Cabinda with South Africa or who print obviously xenophobic headlines like “Michael Essien flies into the Death Zone.”

My reader knows that I’m no fan of international competitions, I think they are all just exercises in archaic nationalistic masturbation. I’ll also freely admit that my first reaction was to say “bring Song and Eboue home” out of purely selfish reasons, but the more that people I respect, like Wenger, and people who have keen insight, like Darius, speak out on this issue the more I’m inclined to insist that the games must go on.

Arsene to Denilson, cheat?

The word “cheat” is thrown around a lot and especially, it seems, when it comes to Arsenal players, but this is going too far. Arsene Wenger admitted in his post-Everton interview with the dot com that he spoke to Denilson after the bizarre incident which saw him collapse in the middle of the pitch, turn the ball over, and but for an Almunia save, nearly concede a goal.

No. I wasn’t upset that Everton played on. I said to Denilson afterwards: ‘If that happens again you have to commit a handball.’ I’m very serious. If you go down, and there hasn’t been a foul, you cannot ask Everton to stop their counter-attack and not to score. So, if you go down like that, at least put your hand on the ball and it’s a free-kick.

Yes, either that or kick it out of play, or do what Phil Neville would do and elbow someone in the chest, whatever it takes but stop play so that you can be properly cared for. Is that cheating as The Spoiler would have us believe? Hardly.

Though, if you do, Denilson, don’t expect anything less than a straight red card from the English refs. I’m afraid you don’t have the right passport or club crest to get away with handling the ball in the EPL.

Man U Ties That Bond

I’ve written pretty extensively about debt in the Premier League and the fact that ManU and Liverpoor look dangerously overextended but I’ve always thought that of the two it was Liverpoor who were most likely to sink first and sink hardest. This was mostly down to the fact that of the two clubs, Man U has the most intrinsic value, topping Forbes’ list of the world’s most valuable sports franchises. I reasoned that if the debt started to eat up too much profits, some rich dude could come in and buy the club. But that intrinsic value turns out to be a curse as well. The club is worth £1.3bn but the debt, including the onerous PIK loans where United is rolling debt and interest, is thought of to be at £700m. Paying off that kind of debt takes seriously deep pockets.

There are folks out there who can do it but it needs to happen soon, before the debt gets too big for even the deep wells of money that are out there. Which is one reason why United are going to float bonds.

All the rest of the details of this bond issue are explained in that link above, check it out.

Setanta Update

The Irish Times are reporting that Fox is working with Setanta USA to buy the channel. If true, that would explain why Fox withheld Setanta’s broadcast rights this weekend; they wanted to put the squeeze on them. Though, I still think it was f-ing stupid for Fox Soccer Channel to show Serie A re-runs instead of the Arsenal v. Everton match.

Some kind of official announcement is expected soon.

Fergie Rants, The FA Cowers

SHOCKING: the FA are going to investigate Fergie for his comments about Mark Clattenburg after ManU’s pitiful performance against Birmingham. What is there to investigate? It’s true that Ferguson said “He did the Arsenal-Tottenham game – you had to have someone hit with an axe before he’d book anyone in that game, and he sends a player off here.” and called Clattenburg’s decisions “wonderful and weird.” It’s also true that Crapenburg is one of the worst referees I have ever seen. Worse than Uriah Rennie.

So far this season, Crapenburg has refereed at least three Arsenal matches which have been the scenes of some seriously dangerous play. The first was against Manciti where Mark Clattenburg mysteriously didn’t see Adebayor’s stamp on Cesc followed by Adebayor’s stamp on Robin van Persie’s face, despite video showing him LOOKING AT THE INCIDENT. Then, despite the FA’s retroactive action against Adebayor, he was put in charge of the Arsenal Tottenham match that Fergie aludes to, in which Rat Faced Chav did a two-footed, studs up, challenge on Vermaelen. And just last week, he was put in charge of the West Ham Arsenal match which saw Jiminez try to perform oral surgery on Diaby’s face with his boots.

Before the year is out, Clattenburg will referee a game which has a career ending injury. I guarantee it.

So, the FA should throw the book at both Clattenburg and Fergie. Clattenburg, because he’s a disgrace, and Fergie, because well, I hate United.

Comments

Vote -1 Vote +1asbola

u r shit, and so is american football, its an english game u wannabe, u talk suc shit and i bet u suck at it, and even i lsupport arsenal

Vote -1 Vote +1Tim

@asbola,

Oh dear…

Vote -1 Vote +1kevin

@asbola, While your comment is interesting and provocative, there is something to be said for Tim’s amazing ability to form words out of more than one letter, which I, and many others, seem to admire.

Vote -1 Vote +1nycgunner

you are a sad, sad human being.

Vote -1 Vote +1wandarah

@asbola,

wait, american football is an english game? is that what he is wanting to be? an english american football? is that what he sucks at? is that why he is shit?

so many questions, layers of meaning – truly this is the spanish onion of internet comments. speak to us again, great oracle, answer our mortal mewlings!

even YOU support arsenal.

Vote -1 Vote +1Caknucklehead

oh assebola, why are you so angry?

Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick

What you have here is a troll.

Vote -1 Vote +1Tiki

@asbola, Obvious troll is obvious.

Vote -1 Vote +1The Law

@asbola,
Vampires, werewolves, and trolls. Oh my!

Vote -1 Vote +1kidkle

The anger really comes through on a traditionally untransferable medium. Well done.

Vote -1 Vote +1Pakong82

@Tim
Just ignore that idiot…
Football(soccer) is universal….
actually i’m very proud that an american like u supports arsenal….
What i’ve seen on the TV is that americans only care about their NFL,NBL,NHL…..bla2..

p/s: i’m from malaysia…i dunno if u’ve even heard of it…
anyway ,up the gunners!!!!

Vote -1 Vote +1DC

You said, “My reader knows that I’m no fan of international competitions…”.

I am all for being self effacing, but surely there is more than just you and me? If not, I feel so alone…

Vote -1 Vote +1Tim

@DC, it’s a joke from the old days when it was just me and Matt.

Vote -1 Vote +1DC

@Tim, Thank goodness. Three of us!

Vote -1 Vote +1Tim

@DC, OH YEAH…

I forgot about…

VELA.

I always forget about Vela.

Vote -1 Vote +1The Law

@Tim, what about me?

Vote -1 Vote +1Tim

@The Law,

Sigh… I love all my readers the same. I just love some more than others.

Vote -1 Vote +1nycgunner

im actually going to applaud fergusson for taking it to the refs this season. someone needs to. the officiating in the last two or three seasons have been reaching new lows. arsene’s words have been falling on deaf ears for years but i hope fergusson, who seems to have more pull within the league, can bring more attention to the ridiculous referees that are in the epl

Vote -1 Vote +1munawwar

@nycgunner,

i agree completely… it was good he mentioned the arsenal game… the damn media is always biased on arsenal… if the tackles made against us were made on by us on a terry or a gerrad we would punished for the next 10 years regarding that one tackle!

Vote -1 Vote +1BayGooner

@nycgunner,

I don’t. Fletcher tripped the guy. Clearly. Deliberately. It may have been a gentle trip, unlikely to end his career, but it was what it was. What Fergie should moan is that Fletcher didn’t makeit horrible — then Clattenburg wouldn’t have called it!

When an Arsenal player is called for something that is detrimental to the team, Wenger says he didn’t see it. With ManU, Fergie slams the referee and also adds that they didn’t have enough extra time. Something to be said about Arsene’s approach.

And you’re right, Tim. Denilson has the wrong passport and skin colour to get away with a deliberate game stopping foul in the EPL. If he were English and white, it wouldn’t be called cheating, it would be called a “professional foul.”

Imagine what the English would say about a batter who deliberately fouls off pitches? They’d probably call him a cheat.

Vote -1 Vote +1nycgunner

I saw the game. It wasn’t a foul worthy of a second yellow… but that’s not even the point. The point is there are too many Mark Crappenburg and the likes currently officiating the EPL games. Personal feelings aside, Fergusson is right to speak up against that kind of officiating, regardless of how. So is Arsense, even if his approach is different. As a matter of fact, all interested managers need to get together and come up with a solution for the disgraceful calls we have been witnessing all season long. Maybe the FA will listen then.

Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick

What exactly is deserving of a second yellow? The trip was certainly deserving of a yellow. It was a professional foul.

Vote -1 Vote +1ArseChicago

I think what certainly enters into the equation for refs is reputation. A lot of what you’ve done in the past plays a part in a ref’s decision on whether to be lenient or not. Fletcher, given his past c&ntery, is probably not going to get the benefit of the doubt from too many refs. Just like Eduardo, because of the lone Celtic match incident, probably won’t get another penalty awarded him the rest of his career in the EPL, regardless of whether a penalty is awarded.

Vote -1 Vote +1Anthony Philip Goodman

As a New England Revolution season ticket holder I have seen more than my fair share of MLS games ruined by lunatic refereeing decisions by unfit, untrained referees. Little did I know that watching Arsenal games would head the same way. The referring in the EPL seems to be getting worse. Does anyone know why?

Vote -1 Vote +1MikeSA

@Anthony Philip Goodman,

Yes Anthony, it’s because the FA and the refs are a bunch of xenophobic cheats, and if you need any substantiating evidence, just read up on the comments by that gormless chop, graham poll on Arsenal vs Aston Villa a season or so ago.

Vote -1 Vote +1Goonermanic

brilliant read. Only when utd, chelsea or pool go bust financially will the gooners that constantly moan about the lack of silverware truly appreciate the sacrifices made by Wenger & the board!

Vote -1 Vote +1LRV

I never knew that Fergie noticed Cunt-tenburg’s biaz against Arsenal. How come he never said anything before?

Tim, sorry for my overreaction and over-sensitivity yesterday. You already know my dislike for the Internationals, but the sad incident and the attending media xenophobia touched a raw nerve.

Vote -1 Vote +1Tim

@LRV, we’re all friends, no worries.

Like I said above, my initial reaction was probably more in the “AFRICA IS NOT SAFE OMG FREAK OUT” camp, so it makes sense that others would have a different reaction.

Let’s just both thank Darius for the thoughful article and bringing us all back to reality.

Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick

My 2 cents. Until refs have the benefit of video replays, they should be protected. Elbows Ferguson should get a nice 10 match touchline ban the next time he opens his trap.

Vote -1 Vote +1Tiki

@Patrick, Hey he insulted Mark Crappenburg. If he insulted Wiley again fair enough, but he insulted Crappenburg, so I’d be inclined to punish Crappenburg with a ten match banishment to League 2.