Newcastle 0-4 Arsenal; the Good, Bad, and the Barton

Preamble to the Execution

He’s an iconoclast and he’ll have to do it his way, but make no mistake, Wenger wants to win every competition that he enters his team in. Especially when you consider that the League Cup is a trophy that Arsene has never won.

The closest he’s gotten the team was the Millennium Stadium battle where Arsenal lost 2-1 to Chelsea, a game which saw the ascendancy of Chelsea, the introduction of Theo Walcott who scored his first Arsenal goal, and where Howard Webb royally fucked up the officiating, a trend he would continue into the World Cup final this year.

We aren’t there yet, but we are so close I can smell it. There are certainly some potentially delicious ties for the match on December 1st: West Brom in particular would be fascinating as both teams will have a real go at each other and Arsenal would be looking for revenge. Of course, instead of a decent tie we’ll probably get Man U, in Manchester.

Which raises one more interesting fact; there’s a pile of fixtures building around that day. Given the fact that there are two away matches immediately preceding December 1 (Braga and Villa) and two home games right after (Fulham and Partizan) then if we get a home draw, we get a three game home stand and if we get the away draw it will be our third consecutive away match.  Certainly something for the conspiracy buffs, no matter how the ball bounces.

This is Arsenal’s eighth consecutive Carling Cup quarter final appearance and yet the mood among the fans is as high as I have seen it since we made it to the Final. I think there’s a real chance here to win something but we will have to battle all the way. If you think English referees allow kicking in League games, you haven’t seen anything yet. A semi-final League Cup match between Arsenal and Man U would be a veritable festival of kicking.

I can’t wait.

Man of the Match

I have to give it to Theo. He scored a brace, both of which were cool finishes, and his runs at Newcastle terrified them for 90 minutes. There were other notable players, certainly, but Theo stood above them all. He’s now got 6 goals in all competitions (two shy of his all time high of 8) and looks like he’s ready to really push for a permanent starting spot.

Once he sorts his runs across the defenders out, he will be impossible to stop.

The Good

One of the reasons that Arsenal are able to play so many “first team” players in the Carling Cup is because we have such a deep squad. For example, Denilson played 47 games for Arsenal in 2008/2009 and despite injury played 23 last season as well. In him, Arsene has a player who is a regular starter on most other teams but at Arsenal our depth in that position is so great that he becomes a squad player. So, while he is technically a first team player, he’s not really Arsenal’s first team first choice.

With Chamakh’s brilliant start to the season (6 goals so far) Bendtner is in a similar situation to Denilson now. He’s coming back from injury and he’ll need to work extra hard to get into the starting lineups over the next few weeks. When last season’s Champions League hat-trick striker is now a “squad” player and rotates in for the Carling Cup this really shows the depth in squad that Arsene has.

And the really good news is that Arsenal’s “second string” worked together well as a team. Koscielny in particular reminded me why he was such an important signing this Summer and the way he mopped up our makeshift back four’s mistakes was, well, commanding.

Meanwhile, in goal, the young Pole showed control…

Shechesney, as my announcer kept saying, made some great saves and despite the gaffe where he went on what will soon be called an “Arsenal Keeper Walkabout” I thought he showed real maturity and strength. The booming punch to end the game where he literally punched the ball to the half way line gave me a little smile and I thought “atta-boy Schez, show Almunia how it’s done!”

And I would be remiss if I left off Bendtner’s superb curling goal from outside the box. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve yelled “SHOOT” at the television over the last five years so any time an Arsenal player gets a goal like that I have to give kudos. Top quality curler from Bendtner to send Arsene into a selection headache soon.

When’s the last time you remember saying that Arsenal are going to have a selection headache?

The Bad

Unfortunately, as well stocked as we are up front, we are looking a little thin in defense. Fingers crossed that Gibbs comes through this morning’s physical without any long term injury or else our only real left back is Clichy. Any injury to him and we are in real trouble there.

Similar story in the holding midfield role and it’s something that I know many of you have been harping for some time now: Eastmond looked out of his depth yesterday playing against a weakened Newcastle side which means that unless you consider Denilson a holding midfielder, Arsenal have no backup for Song. This was particularly clear yesterday when many of us asked for Eastmond’s night to end early and then we looked at the team sheet and struggled to figure out who to bring on. Cesc and put Rosicky in the holding role? Lansbury and put Rosicky in the holding role?

Too many players going forward, not enough holding back. Same old Arsenal, eh?

The Ugly

Before I get to the meat of this segment, I need to address Arsenal’s second goal. There are many ways to look at the goal; Bendtner was a mile offside, the ball is played through and Bendtner foolishly puts himself in the play, then there’s a collision, and Theo is off with a burst and a goal is given. Was it interference? Should they have flagged for offside when Bendtner put himself in the play? Did the Newcastle defender actually crash into Bendtner to make it look like Nicklas was more involved than he was?

All valid opinions I think, but the only one that counts is Andre Marriner’s and somehow he saw that goal as fair play. Of course, Andre Marriner also allowed Alan Fucking Smith to try and wreck Arsenal’s midfield on pretty much every play so what, exactly, his interpretation of “the rules” are is anyone’s guess.

Speaking of which, Joey Barton is still a coward, a bully, and all around despicable human being. I’m not going to dwell on Barton except to link to the Arsenalist‘s compilation video and say that in neither tackle on Eastmond or Cesc did he make any attempt to play the ball.

It’s the 90th minute, his club is down 4-0, he’s a serial offender on and off the pitch, he’s clearly targeting the Arsenal players, he puts his knee through the back of Eastmond, and frankly I think Arsenal should make a case of him in front of the FA. If we don’t, then he will be doing that kind of shit from the first minute of our match on November 7th.


Arsenal came out of the gates, all guns blazing, and truly deserved to get the win against a very one dimensional Newcastle side. Yes, there was a bit of luck in our first two goals but there was also plenty of “luck” on their side in keeping Joey Barton off a well deserved red card.

I’m just happy that Arsenal are still in this competition and that with the teams left there’s a real chance to get through to the next round. Which is all we can really ask: that our club and our players fight for every trophy.

See you tomorrow!

42 thoughts on “Newcastle 0-4 Arsenal; the Good, Bad, and the Barton

  1. -20 Vote -1 Vote +1Robert Parkin

    “he’s a serial offender on and off the pitch”

    Factually incorrect. His disciplinary record isn’t actually too bad for a player who has shuffled between CM and DM throughout his career.

  2. -16 Vote -1 Vote +1Steve

    So he dished out a couple of dead legs. Have you not played football at any level? None of his tackles are were designed to cause severe injury. He just left a little mark but that’s football. You are taking the issue of bad challenges too far now. He got a yellow, let it go.

    1. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1amaan

      @Steve, So ur saying if u get an injury in a tackle then that tackle is bad, there is difference between a tackle and thuggery, thats what Barton is, a thug, who kneed a young boy from behind on purpose, without any intention of playing the ball.

    1. Vote -1 Vote +1JV Mauer

      @Bala, Only marginally related, but I’ve noticed that the YES network has been showing a lot of our games lately. The Citeh match is on as I type, and was proceeded by the Arsenal 360 show. Which is all a bit weird, considering the NY Yankees, who own the channel, made such a big deal of partnering with ManUre a couple years ago…

  3. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Naylyn

    I think that Barton’s hits on Cesc and Eastmond were mean-spirited, jerk tackles. In the context of the wider tackling issue I think that Barton’s tackles are nowhere near as bad as the potentially career ending tackles that Karly Henry and De Jong perform on a regular basis.

    One thing I really noticed was the commentary. I didn’t get to watch the whole game but while I was watching the commentator didn’t pull out any of the old bullshit cliches about Arsenal that get said pretty much every week.

    1. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1ArseChicago

      In the context of the hits being in the last few minutes of the game with his team down 4 nil, the tackles or contact is completely unnecessary and unsportsmanlike.

  4. +5 Vote -1 Vote +1Barndoor Bendtner

    @Steve & Robert
    So far this season Barton has kept it relatively clean, however……if you go for the man, not the ball you are A/ eventually get sent off = bad for your team, or B/ let the ball through on an attack = bad for your team, or C/ Seriously injure someone = bad for football.

  5. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Brahmabull

    Steve and Robert:

    Two magpie fucking apologists for Joey Barton. Barton stood no chance of getting the ball with Eastmond, and puts his knee up Eastmond’s ass instead. What a cunt. And the tackle on Fabregas was a hip toss/check that I, a judo black belt, would have been proud of.

    He is garbage, and congratulations to Barton, because all the joy I had yesterday at blasting Newcastle, was replaced with rage at the inept officiating and the injustice of Barton not being suspended today.

  6. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1LRV

    The Joey Bartons, Karl Henrys, De Jong, et al, of this world should only have been allowed to play Rugby or KickBoxing. They should never have been allowed anywhere near a football field. Anyone who support their maiming act on the football field should be barnished to live in the zoo.

  7. -9 Vote -1 Vote +1polo1234

    Arsenal were worthy winners but they got very lucky indeed….. first and second goal, the second goal was a foul and therefore warrants a free kick, also i froze the tv screen when the ball was played through and Walcott was offside!

    Please dont give any Barton chat when your “wonderkid” wilshire was lucky not to break some poor blokes leg, also Eboue is a filthy diver and doesn’t deserve to play. Barton is a changed person off the pitch and on it he has come on a long way from what he was. As for smith he waws losing his head a little, but he doesnt injure people never has

    LRV what about Wilshire…..?

    1. +6 Vote -1 Vote +1ArseChicago

      Dude, if you had been reading this blog regularly, you’d know that everyone on here was pointing out that Jack deserved the red card, deserved the suspension. We don’t want our players doing that either. So we gave Wilshire “chat” as you say, just as we’re giving ex-con Barton “chat”.

    2. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Naylyn

      @polo1234, Arsenal didn’t rally around Wilshire and pretend what he did was okay, we accept that he made a bad tackle and immediately apologised. If he keeps doing it there will be a problem, as it is he is a young man that who while still developing who a mistake, accepted his mistake, apologised and will learn from it. Thankfully Wilshire being tiny meant he didn’t do any series damage.

      That is a lot different from a player who makes the same cynical and mean tackle twice at the end of a match that had already been decided. The best thing I can say about Barton’s tackles is that there weren’t going to break any legs.

      On the second goal, I don’t actually know if that was a foul or not but if it was then there was an incident in the first half where Bendtner was taken out off the ball and no foul was given so at least the refereeing was consistent. Theo did look to be offside which is exactly the reason I think we should have video refereeing.

      Eboue certainly goes down easily, which is frustrating for Arsenal fans but he is no worse than England’s “golden generation”.

  8. -4 Vote -1 Vote +1polo1234

    he deserved more than a red card…..
    as for Barton emphasis on ex… people can change you know

    1. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Naylyn

      @polo1234, Perhaps he did deserve more than a red card and I would certainly be in favour of introducing harsher penalties to players that perform really dangerous tackles. Wilshire’s tackle is nowhere near the top of those that deserve a long ban though.

  9. Vote -1 Vote +1Yan

    I thought that Newcuntsle looked more dinamic when Barton got in. He could be a decent MF for an average team if he wasnt mental.

  10. Vote -1 Vote +1Tim Post author

    I just wish everyone knew how to spell Jack’s last name, it’s not “Wiltshire” or even “Wilshire” it’s Wilshere.

    That’s all.

  11. Vote -1 Vote +1Charybdis1966

    Gibbs out “for a few weeks” according to Wenger due to a medial knee logament strain, thanks to another shite tackle, by Routledge I think it was.

    We’re running low on defenders.

  12. Vote -1 Vote +1Swifty87

    With Gibbs being injured, does this mean “Top Gun” Cruise will be the back-up to Clichy?

    Bar Ramsey & Nordtveit, all the other 27 first-team squad have played some part in 3 competitions so far.

    Almunia, Squillaci, Vermaelan, Song, Diaby, RVP haven’t played in the Carling Cup yet so that shows the depth in the first-team squad.

    1. Vote -1 Vote +1Charybdis1966

      @Swifty87, If the Verminator ever comes back he can also play left back but then he’d be wasted there rather than at centre back.

      We just have to cross our fingers Clichy keeps fit and on form.

  13. Vote -1 Vote +1Yan

    @Tim, I knew that, hehe. Now how do you pronounce it? As in “will+share” or as in “why’ll +shire”. Local spanish commentators keep changing it. I go for the 1st one.

  14. Vote -1 Vote +1Kevin

    @Yan, Definitely depends on where you’re from. UK would probably say “will-sheer”, I, as an American with a dumbed down accent, always go with “will-sure”

  15. Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick

    It should be noted that on Smith’s shot that hit the crossbar, that was a save! Scezney fingertipped it. I reckon that’s one of the saves of the season.

  16. Vote -1 Vote +1Bull

    Van Persie and Ramsey to resume full raining this week, some good news, if only we could keep a few defenders fit! I don’t care what some Geordie wankers say, Barton IS a CUNT and a coward and always will be.

  17. -2 Vote -1 Vote +1Steve

    Funny how your slagging of Barton when I don’t think either of the challenges Barton did were anywhere near as bad as the studs up challenge Eastmond did on Perch in the first half can’t believe he didn’t get at least booked for it.

  18. Vote -1 Vote +1Caribkid69

    Barton is not a cunt, some cunts I like, some I even love :)

    Barton belongs in a penal psychiatry institution. Being a felon is bad enough, being a “crazy felon” goes outside of normal boundaries. What is he going to do when he retires, get drunk and beat up innocent people at bars?

    Onto the topic of LB. Surprisingly, Eboue put in a good stint there and once again has shown his versatility. We need people like him in the squad.

  19. Vote -1 Vote +1Patrick

    Regarding this weekend’s fixtures, Wet Hams is an important one in terms of momentum. Hopefully Cesc being back will eliminate any of whatever it was that let Wet Broms away with 3 points.

    Without Fabregas:
    2W 1D 2L

    With Fabregas:
    5W 1D 0L (drew at Sunderland after he limped off)

    - not including Carling Cup

    Chelsea at Blackburn is interesting because we got 3 points there. Let’s see if Chelski can do the same.

  20. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1ctpa

    50 yrs from now if the world, football, England and the Daily Fail still exist, they will publish a list of the football’s ‘hard men’ and Joey Barton will not make the grade. His mother might just squeak into the list because she ‘had’ to raise him but only just.

  21. Vote -1 Vote +1ctpa

    Stan Kroenke in a Colorado scarf at the Colorado-Columbus Crew playoff game won by Colorado 1-0.

    Arsenal World TV focuses on the club’s history. Arsenal 360 recaps the most recent games with commentary from Winterburn and Robson.

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