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When your defense is so bad it makes Henderson look good

In the 30th minute Jordan Henderson looked up and saw Sturridge making a marauding run. It was a fast break moment and all he needed to do was make a simple pass to the Liverpool forward and it was going to be a clear goal scoring opportunity. Instead, he hit the ball wildly and even Sturridge, himself a mediocre player, looked at Henderson with daggers. At that moment I wrote myself a note, something to the effect that “Liverpool are such crap that Jordan Henderson can’t even make a simple pass on a breakaway and Arsenal’s defense is so comical that it makes Jordan Henderson look good.

In fact, if there was a man of the match it was Jordan Henderson. Not because of his stellar individual play, but because Arsenal made him into the man of the match.

The first goal Arsenal conceded was simply blightful. Sagna lost his footing when Suarez’ lame pass was inches from the Arsenal defender. Then Glen Johnson crossed what was essentially right at both Mertesacker and Vermaelen. The big German was too slow to get to the ball but the little Belgian was there and all he needed to do was kick the ball out of play. Instead he took the biggest swing and a miss in the history of the sport, the momentum of his swing was so great that it flung him dramatically in the air and landed him square on his face. He couldn’t have executed that move any better on the set of Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Sturridge was so confused by all this Keystone Coppery that he just shot straight at Szczesny. Ramsey tried to collect the rebound but it was behind him and his flick at the ball played it right to… HENDERSON. The man of the match passed to Suarez who also was surprised by his good fortune and since Suarez has difficulty scoring with his feet, unless he uses his hands first, he shot straight at Per Mertesacker. All Mertesacker had to do was stand still. Instead, the German jumped and pirouetted balletically and Suarez’ shot went in.

Liverpool’s second goal was just as comical. Henderson again gets the ball, and this time he’s sandwiched between Mertesacker and Santos. Mertesacker sticks out a leg, Henderson skips past him, Santos stands there for a second and then decides to try to pull Henderson down by the shoulders, but Jordan Henderson, the Lionel Messi of Liverpool, powers on into the box. Aaron Ramsey comes flying in and gets a block on Henderson’s shot but the ball bounces off Santos and falls into Henderson’s path and he scores with aplomb.

He'd fly through the air with the greatest of ease,That daring young man on the flying trapeze.

He’d fly through the air with the greatest of ease,
That daring young man on the flying trapeze.

Liverpool were so poor that they needed no less than three comedy errors before they could score on Arsenal. Case in point, at the 43rd minute, Suarez plays Henderson through on goal. Arsenal’s normally solid keeper, Szczesny, comes out of his area and stands in front of Henderson with the goal gaping behind him. If Henderson had any talent at all he would have scored. One-on-one with a keeper out of his area is a dream situation for a decent footballer. But not Jordan Henderson, he chipped well over the box after taking a fortnight in deliberations. See, Liverpool needed at least three comedy mistakes before they could score and in that case Szczesny only offered the one.


Meanwhile, on the other end of the pitch Arsenal were at their rapacious best. Slicing through Liverpool’s own comedy defending with excellent passing and incisive dribbling. There was never any doubt that Arsenal would score and fans didn’t have to wait long after Henderson’s goal before Giroud delivered the goods.

Wilshere took a rare Arsenal long free kick and floated the ball perfectly to Giroud who simply nodded down. It was 1-2 now and Arsenal were back in the game, the Emirates faithful singing in full voice. It paid dividends as well as three minutes later Giroud slipped a neat little ball to Theo Walcott in the crowded Liverpool box. The Englishman slammed home down and to the right, where Peepee Reina has a known weakness. It was such a weird goal that I had to rub my eyes to check if I was actually awake.

From that point on it really looked like Arsenal would get the winner. Or maybe they would concede the winner, either way, a winner was there for the taking.

Cazorla and Wilshere were dynamic and surging forward. The Spaniard had a great cross fizz across the box and all Giroud needed to do was be a step earlier for an easy tap in. There were open shots from all sorts of angles that simply floated over or off to the side. If the first 75 minutes were carnival, those last 15 minutes were the day that the carnival wraps up: everyone wandering around drunk, looking to get that last elephant ear or play one more carnival game.

It was pure madness. So much so that in the 92nd minute, Andre Santos (who had been subbed on for the injured Gibbs) made a disastrous pass into the midfield which was picked off easily by Liverpool. At that moment I did something I’ve never done in my entire sports viewing life: I threw my pen on the ground and didn’t even watch what happened next. Apparently Liverpool didn’t score, see, because just one mistake, no matter how awful, wasn’t enough to gift that steaming pile of shit a goal.

And that’s Arsenal this season. Going forward they are a joy to behold, sometimes. When they are on, like in that second half last night, they are almost unstoppable, but they aren’t on all the time. In fact, the team doesn’t seem to be on even half the time. Arsenal didn’t even start this match until the 50th minute or so.

But at the back, they have the most errors of any Premier League team and they have the uncanny ability to put in 4 or 5 errors at a time gifting terrible players like Jordan Henderson man of the match-like performances.

Sorry but a top four team can have one or the other but they can’t have both. And Arsenal have just 14 game left to try to find a streak of good form in either department.


70 thoughts on “When your defense is so bad it makes Henderson look good

  1. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Top_gooner

    Haven’t even read it yet but that picture is worth…well way more than 1000 words. Hilariously poor from a professional and International.

    1. +11 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

      You support buck-toothed racists, and communicate in retard text-speak.

      What a miserable failure you are.

      1. -8 Vote -1 Vote +1Slick

        I read in amusement you’re truly amusing comments, and wonder if you will ever win a trophy again..

      2. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1ClockEndRider

        I read in amusement your incorrect use of the abbreviation for you are rather than the possessive pronoun and am not surprised given the fact that your speech is barely intelligible.

  2. +11 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

    I watched with amusement as Liverpool fans filled various sporting websites yesterday with comments about Henderson re-born, coming of age finally, coming good, etc. At least we’re not deluded about our team. We know we’re shit.

    Henderson is a donkey that benefited against donkey shit defending, and probably cost more than our entire back line.

    Okay, that might be a slight exaggeration.

    Anyway, it’s transfer deadline day, and I hear we’re signing some fellow named Nacho (Novo!) for left-back. This is welcome news, if true. Not that I know anything about the player, but sweet Zeus, if we had to watch Santos play regularly for the foreseeable future, I’d self harm. Not that he’s much worse than the rest of our back line of late…

    As for this Montreal player (he’s Canadian!), it looks like another Malaga basement bargain with bad front teeth. Fuck, we’re stingy. It’s unbelievable. Watching Arsenal in the transfer market is like going shopping with my wife.

  3. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1ClockEndRider

    Spot on. Henderson couldn’t pass a ball to team mate even if they were nth locked in a 5 foot cell. A real snip at £20 m…….

    1. -6 Vote -1 Vote +1Nick

      Is that CockEndRider?

      Great comments from all the Arsenal faithful – “at least we know we’re shit”, but the article is talking about a top 4 finish! Brilliant!

      As for Henderson – he ain’t great but then you’ve got a load of them as well. I thought Ramsay was our best player on the night!

      1. +7 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

        As for Henderson – he ain’t great but then you’ve got a load of them as well


        I suppose one crucial difference is that unlike Liverpool we don’t actually pay £20m for shit. Or even £35m.

        Another crucial difference is that we don’t stand up proudly for racism.

      2. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1ClockEndRider

        Is that Prick?
        See what I did there? At least try to raise your game above the level of a 10 year old, as difficult as that may be for you…..

  4. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Shard

    Love the scientific precision of calculating the amount of errors needed for a team like Liverpool to score. You seem to have offended some Liverpudlian with that, but his comment honestly made me laugh. It was so unexpected, because here we are bemoaning our own team being so shit that they make shit look good, and this guy so eloquently expressed his anger at his team being identified as shit. Is irony dead yet?

  5. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1marek

    Maybe it was karma? I remember that Henderson “pass” to Sturridge. I remember myself chuckling, being glad that at least Arsenal didn’t have a Henderson on its books… I bet I wasn’t the only one… and then the gods of football saw fit to punish this hubris.

    But, could not the punishment have been meted out to some other team? Could not Henderson have scored against some other team? Could not the gods have inflicted madness upon some other set of defenders? I bet everyone mocks Henderson, but only Arsenal pay.

  6. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Mukesh

    You have made a great point. I was exactly thinking the same last night. With Santos on the left flank, almost anyone looks so great. With couple of maneuvers, he is lost and leaves trying and the opposition player becomes a hero. What a waste, seriously.

  7. -2 Vote -1 Vote +1Geoff

    I’ve given any expectations on The Arsenal until we have a new manager.

    You can be as potent as you like but if you neglect defence you’ll continue to struggle. It’s clear to see we are desperate for a defensive midfielder, one who protects the back four. It’s equally obvious we don’t really have one top centre half who says this is my defence, my responsibility.

    Expect more of the same until Wenger goes

  8. -4 Vote -1 Vote +1Slick

    Lol at Arsenal fans, was a fair contest yesterday, but when where supposedly at our lowest peak in our illustrious history and you how many points ahead??? when you have been building a squad for about 5 years and have wonderful finances, that’s plain embarrassing go boo you’re manager and enjoy winning nothing for another 10 years..

    1. +7 Vote -1 Vote +1ClockEndRider

      Feel free to come back when you’ve funded and built your stadium to tell us what finances are like in the immediate aftermath. Then again, don’t bother as it will never happen and you’ll remain in your Lego set of a ground since nobody will underwrite the risk for you and you’ll never raise enough cash from within the club despite the fact you can buy whole areas of the city for 5 quid and a Bazooka Joe wrapper.

      1. +4 Vote -1 Vote +1Tim Post author

        I’ve been there. The choir was nice at the start and then everything got all quiet as the pensioners slipped off to dreamland while visions of Istanbul danced in their heads.

    2. +4 Vote -1 Vote +111 cannons (@11cannons)

      If you haven’t noticed we’re at a pretty low point ourselves, Slick. Not so low that I fail to grasp the meaning of the word “peak” though. Here’s a hint, it’s typically not something low.

      Speaking of embarrassing and low points for Arsenal, that we didn’t get all three points against this Liverpool side neatly sums up both phrases. We should have mauled that shower of shit yesterday.

      Remind me again how much less Liverpool have spent on average players recently to now routinely miss out in the Champions League? Given the context of your offering I may have to go watch our pudgy little Russian crush your title dream with a quadruple at Anfield. He was a record breaking transfer for us at the time and STILL didn’t cost as much as Henderson.

  9. -10 Vote -1 Vote +1Susan

    Laugh all you want at how bad LFC is and how your defense made Henderson look good…but have fun in the Mid-Table and missing out of the Champions League. Tell me again…why did you sell RVP to Man U and get rid of Nasri & Clichy? Talk about brilliant moves that make other teams look good.

    1. +10 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

      but have fun in the Mid-Table and missing out of the Champions League.


      Is it fun? We wouldn’t know, but since we’re headed in your direction, perhaps you could share some of your experience?

    2. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1ctpa

      Susan, Susan, Susan are you dipping your toe in the water in an attempt to pile on. Please don’t when your team has been mid-table for years since you booted Benitez, your current and past management have been incompetent, your buys except for Suarez fill top ten lists for worse buys of all time, Suarez for all his goal scoring is odious as a human, your
      “This is Liverpool” reminded me of the NY Jets doing “Hard Knocks” and we’ve been the CL conversation for 14 yrs in a row.

      1. -3 Vote -1 Vote +1Susan

        Not dipping my toe, I just am amazed that you can’t give a little credit for taking advantage of a mistake, instead of ripping on Henderson because he did so. Just admit that you are becoming selling club, and that selling RVP to those scum was a horrific decision–anyone else in Europe would have been better than to one of your biggest rivals. That sale made you weaker and Man U stronger–brilliant move. And you want some insight as to missing out on the top 4? It sucks, but you’ll find that out for yourself soon enough. Mediocrity loves company.

      2. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Tim Post author

        Arsenal had no choice but to sell Robin, just like you had no choice but to sell Torres. At least we replaced him with quality in Cazorla, Podolski, and Giroud. Speaking of replacing a big money signing with quality, how is Andy Carroll these days? Oh and you know Stewart Downing looks a fine fullback.

        I hope Everton finishes above you. I always respected them. At least they don’t cheat and don’t support racists.

      3. -2 Vote -1 Vote +1Susan

        Wow, way to stay classy and not bring racism into the conversation, well done you. You did have a choice of–who–you to sold RVP to. You are right Kenny did not spend wisely, can’t argue that, and well the season isn’t over yet and you are a whooping 2 points above LFC who you obviously don’t rate, that has to suck…can’t wait for the run in. Unlike you I’m not rooting for you to do poorly, merely want you to admit you are not as good as you think you are and despite what you think your club isn’t head and shoulders above Liverpool.

      4. Vote -1 Vote +1Tim

        Actually, Arsenal didn’t have a choice who to sell Robin to. Arsenal wanted to sell him to Juventus for a cut rate deal, Juventus wanted to pay van Persie more than any other team, van Persie refused. Do you have any clue how transfers work?

        As for class, ahem, pretty rich coming from a Scouser.

      5. -3 Vote -1 Vote +1peter

        14 years but never won, what a disgrace even chelski won it before you,so the conversation for 14 yrs was a waste of time ,its fallen on deaf ears,oh yeh,we never won the prem we talk about history to much, what is it [ manure 19 titles,call us what you want 18,with your 3 prem -13 lge titles,wow;you’re something else,i tihink most ars- anal fans need to see a shrink, i konw you won’t like this but you’re manger needs to see one too,.keep selling

    3. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Tim Post author

      When we are forced to sell our players we replace them with quality players. When you sell your players, you replace them with hubcaps nicked off a car in Birmingham. Speaking of useless, that Gerrard, what a treasure.

  10. +6 Vote -1 Vote +1Shard

    Liverpool fans seem to have no sense of humour. How do they put up with the shit on display without laughing about it sometimes? I mean, Arsenal in recent times have had it better than them, but I’d go insane if I don’t find some humour in some of our displays/results. Although I suppose the kind of Arsenal fans who’d invade a Liverpool blog would have a similar mental make up.

  11. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1Glowworm

    The thing that struck me in our tragi-comic display yesterday is how dependent we have become on Jack’s incisive drives forward and leadership. His energy lifts all those around him, but how long will he (can he) last before he’s run into the ground (like Santi), if not downright injured again? I really don’t think AW is managing him right (or Santi…or the club really for that matter!). I suspect we are going to be watching the same starting eleven all of our remaining games…until injuries do us part!

  12. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1bloodred

    i agree with the things u wrote . But it says LUck favours the brave . Jordan snt world class. but at this moment he s a better player a brave player than allen n he does his defensive work well unlike

  13. +8 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

    The number of illiterate Liverpool fans here is truly a sad indictment of that club’s demographic, though I suppose it’s true that racism and ignorance go hand in hand, so…

  14. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave

    What game was this fella watching the rerun at anifeld in aug ?? Look liverpool made arsenal defenders look shit all game !! This was the same defence that you were hailing as the tightest in the prem :) liverpool tired after 60 min ( Lucas and sturridge ) hardly played football last 12 months . I feel for you arsenal fans I really do the board and directors/owners are taking the piss :( selling all your best players and building a great 60k stadium for what ?? To charge £££££ and line their pockets .

    1. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1ClockEndRider

      Ad re the defence, Arsenal have conceded 29. This is only bettered by Citeh, Chelsea, Everton and Swansea. Not ideal by Arsenal standards I agree but clearly omparing favourably with the remaining 15 teams in the division.

    2. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

      Look liverpool made arsenal defenders look shit all game !!


      Really? Liverpool’s players made Sagna slip, Vermaelen kick air, Mertesacker pirouette, and Santos pass to them? That’s an interesting take.

      I also find your criticism of building a new stadium rather amusing. How long has your club been trying to do this very thing…and been failing miserably at it? So…by your logic, if we’re idiots for supporting a bad idea, how bad are you lot for supporting a club that can’t even implement a bad idea no matter how desperate?

      Anyway, I realize now I’m arguing with someone who uses emoticons and double punctuation for effect (i.e., a 12-year-old), so I’ll just stop.

      1. -1 Vote -1 Vote +1jim

        Bunburyist lets try and talk football, you seem hung up more about the money teams spend and spelling mistakes. What a sad little man you are.

      2. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Bunburyist

        Speaking of football, I used my observational skills to point out to your intellectually-challenged friend that Liverpool’s players did not use telekinesis to make Sagna et al fuck up for the first goal. Seems to me I actually know how football (and physics) works, whereas “Dave” just talks nonsense.

        So yes, I “talk football.”

        Also, could be you be a dear and point to all my comments in which I seem “hung up” on spelling mistakes? Did others strike a chord with you, perhaps?

        Seems you talk a lot of nonsense, too. Would you care to talk about football instead?

    3. Vote -1 Vote +1Tom

      Bradford City made Arsenal defenders look shit all game . Arsenal back line and Nie Szczesny(Un – Fortunate),that’s what it means in Polish, have as much composure as a psychotic horse in a burning stable. Get ready for another 4:0 away to Bayern in the CL in a couple of weeks.

  15. +3 Vote -1 Vote +1ClockEndRider

    As opposed to hiring has been ex great managers and allowing them to blow all the beans on top quality crap like Henderson, Downing and Carroll. Clearly an object lesson in running a club . And with Gerrard appearing to be on the downward slide, where is your future midfield general? Lucas Leiva? Oh stop it, I’ll do myself a mischief…….

  16. Vote -1 Vote +1Simon Says

    Who needs to sign a new striker when we have Benfik Afobe coming back from Bolton.
    I can see Arsene mentioning his “potential” at tommorow’s press conference. *sigh*

  17. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Simon

    All together now
    You won the league! You won the league!
    You won the league under thatcher
    You won the league in the 80s
    repeat ad infinitum
    Ok I’ll give you the Chumps League but even you must admit you got so lucky

  18. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Wang

    As amusing as they are, I’m going to ignore the Liverpool trolls because they are clearly drinking the kool-aid if they’re trolling an Arsenal site.

    All three errors that Tim targets are symptomatic of the the same lack of confidence and focus that are now endemic in the the squad. Arsene’s relaxed training methods aren’t working and it’s time he mixes it up, if even for just a little while – crack a whip, lit a fire under some asses, hell, fit the players with electro-shock collars for when the fuck up. There need to be consequences!!!!! I’m a Big PerM fan despite knowing he’s flawed, but I’d drop him and Sagna for the next match, and probably Ramsey, too, and sell Santos.

    Bac’s error came down to focus and confidence: he could have easily dealt with that ball, but he slipped BECAUSE he was indecisive – he turned one way, then the other, and fell over himself.

    Mert put a leg out in a lazy challenge. Had he moved his body, it would have been dealt with by him or the others.

    Look, Santos, is horrible, there’s no denying it, but I think people have gone a bit overboard on him. He did put in a few quality tackles early on, before gravity kept pulling him to the right side of the pitch and massively out of position. Yes, his pass was lazy and misplaced, but look at Ramsey – he’s rooted to the ground, not ready for it, and the Pool player comes around the back of him for it. It was salvagable had he been aware/had some fight in him and run to the ball (like Santos did on an errant pass just a minute before, although he misplaced his pass on that one too, only Bac saved it). Even Ramsey, just two minutes earlier misplaced an easy one to Theo down the wing and out of play.

    Lack of focus is endemic right now. Santos is done, but the problem won’t go away when he’s sold. Shock collar Pavloving conditioning – seriously.

    1. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Shard

      Bacary Sagna seemed indecisive because Suarez messed up his pass. Sagna had perfectly read where Suarez was going to pass. It was only because Suarez mishit his pass that Sagna had to turn quickly, causing him to lose his balance. I still count it as an error because it is one, but it wasn’t due to indecisiveness.

      1. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Wang

        Looked again, and think you’re right. So he gets a pass on this one, but form still hasn’t been great lately.

        And still, what’s with Verm not clearing or every idiot (Mert, Szcz, Ramsey) trying a coy Cruyff turn or flick in our own box under pressure. We need to get back to basics and build a foundation from which we can build confidence. I think the point stands that lack of focus and confidence are pervasive in this squad at the moment and something needs to be done immediately.

      2. Vote -1 Vote +1Shard

        Oh absolutely. Wasn’t disputing the mental issues that lead to calamitous defending so often. Just calling it like I saw it as regards Sagna.

        The mental errors are very tough to coach out of the players. After all, the players are obviously good enough to know not to do it. Like Arseblog, I too think that sometimes talking about it makes it even tougher to set it right. Wenger also attributed it to players having past mistakes in mind and wanting to set it right too much. I read another theory today that perhaps Bould’s influence in getting the shape better (which it has been) might have led to the defenders worrying too much about what they should be doing and curbing their natural instincts. Also, seems possible. If so, it’ll take time for their ‘taught’ position, to become their ‘natural’ position.

  19. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Wang

    Ahh, screw it. Hey Slick, Barca winger Isaac Cuenca rejected a move to Liverpool to go to Ajax. How’s that for perspective?

  20. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1ctpa

    I was going to vent more anger about our exceptional defensive displays but then i saw that we had ‘company from Liverpool supporters who came to gloat. Where were those trolls when they lost 0-2 back in September and the biggest news was Rodgers getting caught ogling some presenters’ tits? They have a 2-0 lead because we’re in giving mood and can’t close us out despite our best efforts to help them and you want to come an Arsenal blog after that performance. Arsenal are so ‘good’ that we ‘give’ a team like Liverpool a 2 goal handicap knowing that we can still get something out of the game.

    You know we’ve had various clubs’ trolls coming to this blog after they’ve pip the mighty Arsenal but at least they came after a win.

  21. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1walks

    How nuts is it, that Arsenal can defend so poorly yet they are still 6th in the league in goals allowed? Furthermore, we’re only two goals conceded from having the third best defense in the league…and we’ve conceded less than the team at the top of the table!

    I say we pull a citeh and sign five strikers next transfer window, and only buy defenders that are pacey and attack-minded. At this point, after years of inept defending which hasn’t been remedied with new coaches and players, I don’t see the defense improving under le prof. Our new motto should be 3-2 to the Arsenal.

  22. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Nikki

    Love the post and even better comment from Liverpool fans. I can’t wait for Tim post tomorrow covering our Nacho. Of course, I want a Baines vs Nacho comparison too. Go for it Tim… ;-)

  23. +2 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave

    Look lads I’m not here to take the piss I’m a liverpool fan true but do like arsenal :) you built a stadium good on ya but then why are you selling all your best players when I have seen you have the 4th/5th highest income in the world ?? Where is all the money going ?? Sure liverpool need a stadium Stevie wonder could see that but the truth is are owner came in and cleared 300mil debts with his own money + in the £50 mil we had to pay the crowd who we planned to build new stadium with !!

  24. Vote -1 Vote +1Dave

    Liverpool let 24 players go in the last year how many have arsenal let go ?? Fact is you beat us at anfield is the only reason your above us and seeing Rodgers only 7 month into the job I’m happy with that !! As for liverpool signing yes mistakes were made but could write you a list of shite buys arsenal have had last few years :) but it doesn’t help Newcastle buying all the French players now must have wengers scouts pulling their hair out lol

  25. Vote -1 Vote +1Swiss

    How it is possible for either Liverpool or Arsenal fans to slate the other over how thier club is doing at this point in time is beyond me. Both sides are struggling & are in all honesty at exactly the same level. It really comes down to what you value more, the league or trophies. Arsenal have been consistant in the Premier League qualifying for the Champions League year in year out and not really declining despite selling big name players, but also not progressing. They have also not really made cup runs as they look to ensure their Champions League status. Liverpool on the other hand have been anything but consistant in the Premier League with eratic displays and even more eratic table finishes. However they have been on a few cup runs and got some silverware for their efforts. These good cup runs have usually coincided with their poor league form. The real difference between the two clubs has been that Arsenal have not changed their objectives. They want Champions League and they will sacrifice everything else to ensure that whilst Liverpool dont know what they want sometimes. When theyve gone for the league theyve managed to hit the dizzy heights of 2nd but had poor cup form or theyve had a decent cup run so focused on that. That has lead to a few trophies and finals but has left them languishing in the 5-8th bracket in the league. So the real question is do you want to finsh 3rd or 4th every year or not know where you will end up but have a little silverware to show for your ‘efforts’?

  26. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Micheal

    If Brendan Rogers was the real deal, instead of being delighted getting a point at the Emirates, he should have been furious at losing 3.

  27. Vote -1 Vote +1Micheal

    Peter. You cannot keep a player that wants to leave end of. Not everything is right at AFC, and there are as many views as fans. The truth is, very few people know the complete picture. We have an owner who seems more interested in the bottom line than scoreline, who knows what his imput is.

  28. -2 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave

    So getting into the champions league every year is more important to a footballer than silverware ?? What bollocks !! Ffs even Portsmouth have won more than arsenal last 7 years :)

    1. Vote -1 Vote +1santori


      An FA cup or a league cup does not qualify you for CL.

      The title does.

      Liverpool have not qualified for CL for 3 seasons running. Portsmouth. Who they?:D

  29. +1 Vote -1 Vote +1Dave

    So arsenals fans are happy with £25 mil a year extra and play cl football for 8 games then get knocked out after group stages or win silverware u choose ;) I’m sure the players can frame their passports at the end of their career to show they played in champions league while gerrard and the boys have 1 :) you can buy the league as its been shown in the past but u can’t buy cl medals too many good teams . Hope you lot are ready for channel 5 football next year welcome to our football lol

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